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Other Commodore Computers => Plus/4 & C16 => Topic started by: Blacklord on January 05, 2008, 07:46 AM

Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: Blacklord on January 05, 2008, 07:46 AM
Could be of use to someone on the board who has a Plus4, these don't come up very often.

Auction is here (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Original-Commodore-Floppy-Diskettenlaufwerk-1551_W0QQitemZ360010304012QQihZ023QQcategoryZ3544QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

Looks to be in good nick as well.

(http://www.c-duwe.de/10.JPG)
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: nikoniko on January 05, 2008, 10:17 AM
For all that the Plus/4 is maligned, the black+rainbow motif does look pretty cool. At least the machine and its peripherals don't yellow. Well, the keys might, but it'll still never look as bad as some of the 128s that show up on eBay.
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: xlar54 on January 05, 2008, 12:10 PM
Nice find.  how much faster is the 1551 compared to the 1541, 71, and 81 (the later in burst modes)?
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: Blacklord on January 05, 2008, 12:33 PM
Quote from: nikonikoFor all that the Plus/4 is maligned, the black+rainbow motif does look pretty cool. At least the machine and its peripherals don't yellow. Well, the keys might, but it'll still never look as bad as some of the 128s that show up on eBay.
Actually none of the Plus4's I've got have yellowed keys - the plastic seems to be a different material to the other C= machines.
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: Blacklord on January 05, 2008, 12:35 PM
Quote from: xlar54Nice find.  how much faster is the 1551 compared to the 1541, 71, and 81 (the later in burst modes)?
Because of the parallel connection, the 1551 was about 4 times faster than the 1541.

Lance
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: RobertB on January 05, 2008, 09:23 PM
I hope to pick up a very nice, boxed, 1551 with instructions in June.

Happy New Year!
Robert Bernardo
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Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: airship on January 06, 2008, 08:36 AM
Was that an IEEE drive and interface, or something else CBM dreamed up?

INFO never got much into the Plus/4. :)
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: wte on January 06, 2008, 09:35 AM
Quote from: airshipWas that an IEEE drive and interface, or something else CBM dreamed up?
Second!
The drive is connected to the expansion port of the P4. Data transfer is parallel.

WTE
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: smf on January 08, 2008, 06:11 AM
Quote from: adminBecause of the parallel connection, the 1551 was about 4 times faster than the 1541.
Is that 4 times faster than a 1541 can go or 4 times faster than a stock 1541?
The latter would be really quite slow...

Quote from: airshipWas that an IEEE drive and interface, or something else CBM dreamed up?
I thought the cable was hard wired to the cartridge, if not I doubt they bought expensive IEEE connectors. It's likely that it's based on the old IEEE drive firmware though.
Title: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: RobertB on January 08, 2008, 04:55 PM
Quote from: smfIs that 4 times faster than a 1541 can go or 4 times faster than a stock 1541?
4 times faster than a stock 1541.
Quote from: smfI thought the cable was hard wired to the cartridge...
Yes, it is wired permanently to the cart.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
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The Other Group of Amigoids
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Title: Re: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: hydrophilic on February 03, 2008, 07:47 PM
4x speed of stock 1541 is TERRIBLE!  With a little programming, the 1541 can do 10x speed transfer over SERIAL!  When I had a Plus/4, I never got a disk drive cuz I was concerned about the strange disk connection (never got joysticks either!).  I wondered then if I was missing something really good not having that fancy parallel connection.  So it turns out, no.  What a relief :)

I just don't get how a parallel connection could be that slow.  Must be the software.  The miracles of shoddy software never cease!
Title: Re: Euro 1551 up on eBay
Post by: SmallCleverDinosaur on March 03, 2009, 06:14 PM
Another one has showed up on ebay, here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250382720879&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015). Starting price €0.99! The owner is in Italy and will ship worldwide.

(http://www.commodore128.org.uk/images/forumpics/1551_thm.jpg) (http://www.commodore128.org.uk/images/forumpics/1551_small.jpg)

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