All,
Sometime mid next month I'll be moving from Sydney to Melbourne. For a few days the forums will be unavailable. I'll give you some dates when it gets closer.
Lance
Perfect timing! I'll be away for the whole month of July. ;)
Good luck with the move, Lance.
-Andrew
And I'll be laid up again. My bleeding disorder that last January's surgery was supposed to fix has taken a left turn into the nearest ditch. :-[
Sorry to hear that BDD. Hopefully they'll patch you up good this time. Best wishes for a full recovery.
Quote from: hydrophilic on June 22, 2008, 01:25 PM
Best wishes for a full recovery.
Yes, I second that.
Leaving Holland today,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v4 website - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
BDD, I know firsthand how frustrating it is to have a recurring condition keep you down time and time again. I hope they get you plugged up right good this time. Have faith, dude!
Thanks for the encouragement. I went through a bunch of tests this morning and it was discovered that my liver has started attacking platelets. Obviously they can't remove my liver, and the drugs that used to work are ineffective since I no longer have a spleen. For now I'm being treated with high doses of corticosteroids until the docs can figure out what's next.
There's a drug called AMG531 that may be my salvation. It works by stimulating the body to produce more platelets than the liver can destroy. That's the good news. The bad news is it's still in clinical trials and at least a year away. The trials do look encouraging, as they've seen a 70-75 percent success rate in refractory ITP patients like me. The trick right now for the docs is to figure out how to keep me going until AMG531 becomes available. So far, I've been unable to get in on the trials, so I'll just have to wait.
Can you get it in Mexico? ???
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Can you get it in Mexico? ???
Sure, along with 1.00 a gallon gas.
With my luck they'd administer the drug with unsterilized needles and then bleeding out would be the least of my worries. :(
Guys,
I'm expecting the server to be shut down sometime tomorrow, it may be 10 daysbefore we're up & running again at the new location.
Lance
YES!!! C128A! is back!!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :D
Quote from: airship on August 08, 2008, 12:21 AM
YES!!! C128A! is back!!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :D
Two posts? That's it? Geez. The forums have been up for hours so I fully expected to read through 20-30 posts from you. ;)
I take it you won't be slumming it at Lemon anymore?
Quote from: airship on August 08, 2008, 12:21 AM
YES!!! C128A! is back!!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :D
Sorry about that - had 'issues' :(
Quote from: Blacklord on August 08, 2008, 06:00 AMSorry about that - had 'issues' :(
All's well if you're well. Everyone can think think of the downtime as a summer vacation.
Quote from: Golan Klinger on August 08, 2008, 10:16 AM
Quote from: Blacklord on August 08, 2008, 06:00 AMSorry about that - had 'issues' :(
All's well if you're well. Everyone can think think of the downtime as a summer vacation.
Except it's Winter here :)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: You Australians are an odd lot.
Quote from: Golan Klinger on August 08, 2008, 01:27 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: You Australians are an odd lot.
What I wanna know is how you northerners cope with walking around upside down all the time ?
Great to see its' back, finally. :)...
I missed just about everyone here. cept for new members, which I don't know yet. lol but on the next downtime I'll probably miss you guys too LOL.
Quote from: Blacklord on August 08, 2008, 03:04 PM
Quote from: Golan Klinger on August 08, 2008, 01:27 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: You Australians are an odd lot.
What I wanna know is how you northerners cope with walking around upside down all the time ?
Reading your forum is a problem too. Can you add some code to turn it upright?
Quote from: LuxOFlux on August 09, 2008, 10:04 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on August 08, 2008, 03:04 PM
Quote from: Golan Klinger on August 08, 2008, 01:27 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: You Australians are an odd lot.
What I wanna know is how you northerners cope with walking around upside down all the time ?
Reading your forum is a problem too. Can you add some code to turn it upright?
Looks fine from this angle :)
QuoteTwo posts? That's it? Geez. The forums have been up for hours so I fully expected to read through 20-30 posts from you. Wink
Busy at work. Give me a little time. I'm waiting to get those AtariLab items. ;)
Glad to see the forum is back on-line. I wish I had something to post but haven't been able to get much done in the way of programming as of late.
My situation is steadily deteriorating and I'm seeing a lot more frowning when I visit the hematology clinic. I've undergone another round of chemotherapy in an effort to control the ITP. The drug being used (vincristine) has some nasty side-effects (barfing being one of them, peripheral neuropathy being another), but so far has not achieved the desired result. I've already had one high-speed ride to the ER this month due to spontaneous bleeding. Another one might be the last. <Sigh>
However, I'm still convinced that medical science will find a way to save my sorry ass and I'll try to get Clock-Calendar done, along with some other stuff I was starting on. I will have to be in rigor before they can pry my cold, dead fingers from the keyboard. <Grin>
BDD! You're not dead yet! That's the way to cheat the ol' grim reaper.
Yeah, I'd be dead by now if they hadn't come up with some new ultra-powerful antibiotics in the past couple of years. Those medical research guys are good. Let's hope they come through for you, too.
BTW, peripheral neuropathy isn't the worst thing that can happen to you. Like everything else, it's surprising what you can get used to. I can touch type again even though I can't feel where the keys are, and my little fingers drag like limp sausages. You adapt. Hang in there.
Quote from: airship on August 13, 2008, 07:15 AMYou adapt. Hang in there.
Yes, hang in there.
Sincerely,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Got what might be some good news today. I've been accepted into the clinical trials for a new drug that may be able to help me with my bleeding disorder. This drug is actually in the third phase of the trials, which means the part where it's determined if the stuff will kill you has been taken care of. <Grin> So at least I won't have to worry about the cure being worse than the illness.
All of the treatments I've received to date work by suppressing immune system activity, thereby reducing the rate at which platelets are slaughtered. The bad part of this is I can get sick very easily. The common cold can become a major illness, and something like the flu can become life-threatening. This situation has put both my wife and me on edge, since she works with small children, who are a veritable Petri dish of who-knows-what.
This new drug works by causing the body to amp up the production of platelets to a level that maintains a reasonable count, thus not requiring the suppression of my immune system. With my immune system back to normal, I won't have to worry about some insignificant flu bug taking me out. I'll, once again, be able to go to events that involve being around a lot of people, such as concerts.
This new drug can be administered at home with a standard hypodermic syringe, using a once per week dosage. That is how it will be given to me in the trials, except I'll be at the hospital when it's done. Everything else I have received up until now has had to be administered via IV under clinical settings, with emergency medical care immediately available in case of a potentially fatal infusion reaction.
The drug I'm currently being fed, vincristine, has significant side-effects, including gastrointestinal nastiness, fatigue, insomnia and, most annoying, peripheral neuropathy. The latter has greatly diminished my ability to type, do electronic work and play the bass (I play bluegrass, blues and jazz). It's no fun constantly having numb hands and feet. This new drug has mild side-effects that are more than tolerable by comparison. We'll see...but I am eager to get started!
Great news! Good luck mate!
Quote from: gsteemso on August 19, 2008, 03:15 PM
Great news! Good luck mate!
Great news indeed BDD. All the best to you and good luck with the new treatment!
Great news! I hope this goop does the job for you.
BTW, are you experiencing any pain from the neuropathy? If so, ask about Neurontin. It was developed for narcolepsy, but it does a great job suppressing my neuropathic pain.
Put some effort into getting better. We need you at 100%, big guy.
Quote from: Ian Colquhoun on August 20, 2008, 01:14 AM
Quote from: gsteemso on August 19, 2008, 03:15 PM
Great news! Good luck mate!
Great news indeed BDD. All the best to you and good luck with the new treatment!
Get back to playing that bass BDD.
This is good news. I hope you end up being the guy they put in the ads to show how well the drug worked. We're all pulling for you!
Thanks for all the encouraging words. I'm looking forward to this in a perverse sort of way, as it may save this old dinosaur from untimely extinction, as well as contribute scientific knowledge that may help others with ITP.
I am scheduled to start in the clinical trials in two weeks, provided I don't get any sicker than I am right now. It should be an interesting experience, to say the least, as I've never been part of a study to find a cure for something. My joining the trials adds an unknown to the process, as they have not had any middle-aged male patients on which to test—few men develop ITP once out of their twenties, and it's almost unheard-of in men my age (I'm 63).
If I can believe what I've been told, the worst that will probably happen is nothing...I won't respond to the drug and thus will be no better off than I am now. However, what I have learned is that they've had a nearly 70 percent success rate with refractory ITP patients. with some patients achieving near-normal counts. Most stayed substantially below normal but well away from the 10K/microliter danger zone. I've been there numerous times, including several instances below 3K, which but for the luck of the Irish, could have been my demise. If my count can be kept at or above 50K I'll throw a party! If it can't and I kick the bucket, my wife will throw the party as soon as possible after the funeral is over and the life insurance check arrives in the mail. <Grin> Just kidding!
Hang in there, BDD. You know we're all pulling for you.
Edit: Shucks. Golan already said that. :(
Was this forum down for the better part of the past 24 hours? Or was there a problem on my end?
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 12, 2008, 07:01 PM
Was this forum down for the better part of the past 24 hours? Or was there a problem on my end?
Nope - there's been posts & visits all day.
Anyone knows what happened to the ftp at "ftp://landover.no-ip.com/"? It was a great source!
Quote from: calle1970se on December 12, 2008, 07:16 PM
Anyone knows what happened to the ftp at "ftp://landover.no-ip.com/"? It was a great source!
Off temporarily while I add in more stuff & replace the FTP server with a better one (one that uses the forum user permissions - I had an enormous amount of hot-linking happening with the anonymous access).
cheers,
Lance
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 12, 2008, 07:01 PMWas this forum down for the better part of the past 24 hours? Or was there a problem on my end?
I, too, have been having problems getting here in the last few days. I would just give up, wait several hours, and then try again.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Quote from: Blacklord on December 12, 2008, 07:04 PMNope - there's been posts & visits all day.
Interesting... For some reason, for the past couple days, I haven't been able to get on here at all from my computer at work. I get some sort of error like "unable to connect to the WWW server". Every other site I've accessed on the Internet works fine. But from home, where I'm at now, it seems to be connecting fine. Any idea what could be causing this?
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 13, 2008, 10:56 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on December 12, 2008, 07:04 PMNope - there's been posts & visits all day.
Interesting... For some reason, for the past couple days, I haven't been able to get on here at all from my computer at work. I get some sort of error like "unable to connect to the WWW server". Every other site I've accessed on the Internet works fine. But from home, where I'm at now, it seems to be connecting fine. Any idea what could be causing this?
What's your IP address at work ? I've recently blocked a large chunk of IP addresses that Apache's logs showed were slamming the web server for no good reason ('fluff' requests one after the other several times a second).
Yours may have got caught up .
cheers,
Lance
Quote from: Blacklord on December 14, 2008, 07:30 AMWhat's your IP address at work ? I've recently blocked a large chunk of IP addresses that Apache's logs showed were slamming the web server for no good reason ('fluff' requests one after the other several times a second).
Ah... That might explain it. I'll let you know what the IP address is there when I'm there tonight... Or, when I get home from work in the morning, since I probably won't be able to log in from there. ;)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 14, 2008, 08:15 AM
Quote from: Blacklord on December 14, 2008, 07:30 AMWhat's your IP address at work ? I've recently blocked a large chunk of IP addresses that Apache's logs showed were slamming the web server for no good reason ('fluff' requests one after the other several times a second).
Ah... That might explain it. I'll let you know what the IP address is there when I'm there tonight... Or, when I get home from work in the morning, since I probably won't be able to log in from there. ;)
Email it to me landover@tpg.com.au, I can unlock it.
Quote from: Blacklord on December 14, 2008, 08:47 AMEmail it to me landover@tpg.com.au, I can unlock it.
Okay, I'll e-mail you in the next couple hours... I'm on my way to work now.
I'm able to connect from my computer at work again. Thanks for your help, Lance! :)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 14, 2008, 04:57 PM
I'm able to connect from my computer at work again. Thanks for your help, Lance! :)
No worries :) (Damn, my plan was foiled <evil laugh>)
Waiting impatiently for the ftp then... ;)
The files found in the download area at "Commodore128.org" such as the BASIC8 ROM-file (http://landover.no-ip.com/128/olate/uploads/upload-1149703303-Basic8.BIN) together with all other files I've tried to download can not be found (404 - Webpage not found). Have the files been moved somewhere else?
Quote from: calle1970se on December 15, 2008, 08:21 PMThe files found in the download area at "Commodore128.org" such as the BASIC8 ROM-file (http://landover.no-ip.com/128/olate/uploads/upload-1149703303-Basic8.BIN) together with all other files I've tried to download can not be found (404 - Webpage not found). Have the files been moved somewhere else?
Here, I believe:
http://landover.no-ip.com/128/downloads/
Quote from: Blacklord on December 14, 2008, 08:47 AMEmail it to me landover@tpg.com.au, I can unlock it.
That must be my problem, too. I will e-mail you from the work address.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Looks like I went over the top :)
No, really - I wanted the forums all to myself :) Mwuhahahahahahaha <best evil smirk>
Quote from: airship on December 16, 2008, 08:56 AM
Quote from: calle1970se on December 15, 2008, 08:21 PMThe files found in the download area at "Commodore128.org" such as the BASIC8 ROM-file (http://landover.no-ip.com/128/olate/uploads/upload-1149703303-Basic8.BIN) together with all other files I've tried to download can not be found (404 - Webpage not found). Have the files been moved somewhere else?
Here, I believe:
http://landover.no-ip.com/128/downloads/
That's them.
The classic computer FTP site will be re-available {soonish}.
As soon as I finish building the stand-alone box for it that is.
I'll be in Denver for about an hour on Jan 3 if anyone's about :)
Quote from: Blacklord on December 18, 2008, 03:24 PMI'll be in Denver for about an hour on Jan 3...
Nope, I'll be a thousand miles away in California. :) However, if you stick around Denver until June, I should be there. ;)
Sorry about that,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Quote from: Blacklord on December 16, 2008, 03:48 PM
Looks like I went over the top :)
No, really - I wanted the forums all to myself :) Mwuhahahahahahaha <best evil smirk>
I can just see you sitting there, wondering why there haven't been any posts... ;)
Quote from: RobertB on December 18, 2008, 05:51 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on December 18, 2008, 03:24 PMI'll be in Denver for about an hour on Jan 3...
Nope, I'll be a thousand miles away in California. :) However, if you stick around Denver until June, I should be there. ;)
...and I was there last July... Looks like you missed both of us by half a year on either side. ;)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 19, 2008, 01:43 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on December 16, 2008, 03:48 PM
Looks like I went over the top :)
No, really - I wanted the forums all to myself :) Mwuhahahahahahaha <best evil smirk>
I can just see you sitting there, wondering why there haven't been any posts... ;)
Nah - I'll talk to myself :) The significant other claims I do that anyway :) But I'm the only one around this household that ever listens to me >:(
Quote from: Blacklord on December 19, 2008, 03:37 PMBut I'm the only one around this household that ever listens to me >:(
hehe... I know the feeling! ;)
Quote from: me on December 16, 2008, 03:31 PMThat must be my problem, too. I will e-mail you from the work address.
I was able to get onto the forums today from the work address. If this was because you have fixed things, thanks!
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
I removed some of the blocked IP ranges after noting that no further attacks were coming in. Curiously, a large chunk were of US military IP addresses, go figure!
Quote from: Blacklord on December 20, 2008, 07:21 AM
I removed some of the blocked IP ranges after noting that no further attacks were coming in. Curiously, a large chunk were of US military IP addresses, go figure!
I didn't do it! I swear! :cool:
Quote from: Blacklord on December 20, 2008, 07:21 AMI removed some of the blocked IP ranges after noting that no further attacks were coming in.
Though I thought it was fixed, when I tried to get into the forums from work, your site could not be found. :(
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Quote from: RobertB on December 20, 2008, 01:48 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on December 20, 2008, 07:21 AMI removed some of the blocked IP ranges after noting that no further attacks were coming in.
Though I thought it was fixed, when I tried to get into the forums from work, your site could not be found. :(
What's your IP address Robert ?
Quote from: Blacklord on December 20, 2008, 02:57 PMWhat's your IP address Robert ?
Robert, if you're unsure of how to find your IP address, just go to http://www.whatsmyip.org/ and it'll tell you what your IP address in big, bold text along the top of the screen. :)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 04:26 PM...just go to http://www.whatsmyip.org/ and it'll tell you what your IP address in big, bold text along the top of the screen. :)
Thanks but I'm on vacation now. Won't be back to work until January 12. :)
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Quote from: RobertB on December 20, 2008, 04:33 PMThanks but I'm on vacation now. Won't be back to work until January 12. :)
Oh, you mean you actually do work? I thought you were always on vacation! ;)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 04:36 PMI thought you were always on vacation! ;)
Nah, that's our club treasurer who retired a few years ago. As he told me at last Sunday's FCUG meeting, every day for him is vacation!
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Quote from: RobertB on December 20, 2008, 04:40 PMNah, that's our club treasurer who retired a few years ago. As he told me at last Sunday's FCUG meeting, every day for him is vacation!
Only five more years left until I get to retire... Of course, I'll have to keep working somewhere else since military retirement pay really isn't enough to live off of. ;)
The trick is finding a way to make money from something you would do for free. Earning a hobby-based income is a nice way to whittle away the years.
Quote from: Golan Klinger on December 21, 2008, 04:55 PM
The trick is finding a way to make money from something you would do for free. Earning a hobby-based income is a nice way to whittle away the years.
I'll have a lot of 'em to whittle away since I'll be retiring from the military when I'm 38. :)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 04:26 PMRobert, if you're unsure of how to find your IP address, just go to http://www.whatsmyip.org/ and it'll tell you...
Done! Sending Lance a personal message right now about the IP address.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Robert, are you having trouble accessing this forum from work again? So am I! Unfortunately, there aparently isn't anything that can be done about it until Lance gets back to Oz. Oh well... We'll just have to be patient.
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 18, 2009, 04:17 AMUnfortunately, there aparently isn't anything that can be done about it until Lance gets back to Oz.
Lance wrote that his housemate can look into it.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore/Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org/
Quote from: RobertB on January 18, 2009, 06:20 AMLance wrote that his housemate can look into it.
I'm guessing that's the guy who Lance left the e-mail address to write to if anyone had problems. Well, I wrote to him as soon as the problem started happening again, and he said he wasn't sure how to fix it, and I'd have to wait for Lance to get back. :(
Quote from: me on January 17, 2009, 01:33 PMSending Lance a personal message right now about the IP address.
Several times today from work, I have read/logged into the forum without any trouble. The problem may be fixed.
Yay!
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Catch the Fatman and Circuit Girl at
http://vimeo.com/jeri
Quote from: RobertB on January 21, 2009, 09:31 AMSeveral times today from work, I have read/logged into the forum without any trouble. The problem may be fixed.
I'm off work until Thursday, so I'll try then and see if I can get on from work, too. :)
For some reason after I left the system reverted to blocking US military IP's......
Quote from: Blacklord on January 21, 2009, 12:29 PM
For some reason after I left the system reverted to blocking US military IP's......
Okay... I can be patient... It just means I'll be getting more work done while I'm at work. ;)
Well, guess what? I'm at work now and was able to connect with no problem today. If nothing was done to fix the problem, then it seems that things are getting switched on their own. :)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 23, 2009, 09:38 AM
Well, guess what? I'm at work now and was able to connect with no problem today. If nothing was done to fix the problem, then it seems that things are getting switched on their own. :)
No, we took remote remedial action & gave the server box a severe talking-to :)
Quote from: Blacklord on January 23, 2009, 11:24 AMNo, we took remote remedial action & gave the server box a severe talking-to :)
Cool... Sometimes you have to let these things know who's the boss. ;)
Your signature graphic is telling me:
QuoteYour IP is 155.7.153.30! Your ISP is American Forces Information Service! You are running Windows XP and using IE 7!
Too bad... I
was planning to get more work done while I'm at work. ;)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 23, 2009, 11:28 AM
Your signature graphic is telling me:
QuoteYour IP is 155.7.153.30! Your ISP is American Forces Information Service! You are running Windows XP and using IE 7!
You should be seriously ashamed of the IE7 bit :)
Quote from: Blacklord on January 23, 2009, 01:31 PMYou should be seriously ashamed of the IE7 bit :)
I get no say on what's installed on these computers. ;)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 23, 2009, 01:36 PMQuote from: Blacklord on January 23, 2009, 01:31 PMYou should be seriously ashamed of the IE7 bit :)
I get no say on what's installed on these computers. ;)
I had to just about threaten to quit in order to get permission to install Firefox on this machine. IE. Blech! :P
Quote from: Blacklord on January 23, 2009, 01:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 23, 2009, 11:28 AM
Your signature graphic is telling me:
QuoteYour IP is 155.7.153.30! Your ISP is American Forces Information Service! You are running Windows XP and using IE 7!
You should be seriously ashamed of the IE7 bit :)
Mine says my ISP is SBC, which it isn't. It also says I'm using Netscape, which I'm not. I guess the masquerading on my UNIX server is doing a good job of obfuscating my origins.
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on January 26, 2009, 12:59 PMMine says my ISP is SBC, which it isn't. It also says I'm using Netscape, which I'm not. I guess the masquerading on my UNIX server is doing a good job of obfuscating my origins.
Similarily, if you do a "whois" on my work IP address, it'll say I'm in Alexandira, Virginia. Which is funny, since I'm in southern California. ;)
But I guess that's where the servers are that we're connected to the Internet through.
As for threatening to quit, that doesn't exactly work in the military. ;)
Quote
As for threatening to quit, that doesn't exactly work in the military. ;)
Gee! I can't imagine why! Nothing like the threat of brig time (or getting your head blown off during wartime conditions) to get you to stick around. :D