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Poll
Question: What Commodore computer do you own ?
Option 1: KIM-1 votes: 1
Option 2: PET votes: 7
Option 3: CBM-II votes: 2
Option 4: SuperPET votes: 0
Option 5: VIC20 votes: 8
Option 6: C64 votes: 19
Option 7: 64C votes: 17
Option 8: 64SX votes: 10
Option 9: PET 64, Educator 64 votes: 1
Option 10: C64GS votes: 2
Option 11: C128 (flat) votes: 30
Option 12: 128D (plastic case) votes: 8
Option 13: 128DCR (metal case) votes: 20
Option 14: C65 (aka 64DX) votes: 0
Option 15: Amiga 1000 votes: 4
Option 16: Amiga 500 votes: 12
Option 17: Amiga 2000 votes: 8
Option 18: Amiga 3000 votes: 2
Option 19: Amiga 600 votes: 4
Option 20: Amiga 4000 votes: 2
Option 21: Amiga 1200 votes: 8
Option 22: Amiga CDTV votes: 5
Option 23: Amiga CD32 votes: 3
Option 24: Commodore PC clone votes: 2
Option 25: Other votes: 2
Option 26: Plus/4 votes: 7
Option 27: C16 votes: 4
Title: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on January 28, 2011, 07:03 PM
Let's find out what everyone has - you can select up to twenty options (if you own more types of Commies..... well).

For "completeness" count the MOS KIM-1 together with the CBM release.

PET covers the 2001, 40xx, 82xx and 80xx varieties with the exception of the SuperPET.

CBM-II covers the P/B series.

I've not included the 364 but have included the C65.

C64 varieties are split as are C128 varieties.

For Amiga models, I've excluded things like the A1500 and A2500 - they are derivatives of other Amiga machines so count them there. Tower machines should be considered under their main type - ie A4000T as an A4000

PC clone covers the whole plethora of IBM compatible machines produced by Commodore.

If you choose "other" tell us what it is.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on January 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on January 28, 2011, 07:03 PMLet's find out what everyone has - you can select up to twenty options (if you own more types of Commies..... well).

For "completeness" count the MOS KIM-1 together with the CBM release.

PET covers the 2001, 40xx, 82xx and 80xx varieties with the exception of the SuperPET.

CBM-II covers the P/B series.

I've not included the 364 but have included the C65.

C64 varieties are split as are C128 varieties.

For Amiga models, I've excluded things like the A1500 and A2500 - they are derivatives of other Amiga machines so count them there. Tower machines should be considered under their main type - ie A4000T as an A4000

PC clone covers the whole plethora of IBM compatible machines produced by Commodore.

If you choose "other" tell us what it is.
Does my homemade W65C816S SBC count?  :)  I did steal some code from the C-128's M/L monitor and adapted it to the '816's 16 bit registers.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on January 30, 2011, 05:03 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on January 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
Does my homemade W65C816S SBC count?  I did steal some code from the C-128's M/L monitor and adapted it to the '816's 16 bit registers

Ermmm - no as it wasn't produced by CBM :)
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on January 31, 2011, 04:49 AM
Quote from: Blacklord on January 30, 2011, 05:03 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on January 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
Does my homemade W65C816S SBC count?  I did steal some code from the C-128's M/L monitor and adapted it to the '816's 16 bit registers

Ermmm - no as it wasn't produced by CBM :)
That must be why it doesn't have any hardware "issues" and can run at 12.5 MHz.   :o   Maybe I'll figure out how to hook up a 1581 to it.  Then it might qualify, no?   8)
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on January 31, 2011, 05:43 AM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on January 31, 2011, 04:49 AM
Quote from: Blacklord on January 30, 2011, 05:03 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on January 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
Does my homemade W65C816S SBC count?  I did steal some code from the C-128's M/L monitor and adapted it to the '816's 16 bit registers

Ermmm - no as it wasn't produced by CBM :)
That must be why it doesn't have any hardware "issues" and can run at 12.5 MHz.   :o   Maybe I'll figure out how to hook up a 1581 to it.  Then it might qualify, no?   8)

Um - no  :-X
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on January 31, 2011, 10:15 AM
     Lance, I have a CBM mechanical adding machine.  Would that be considered a computer for the "other" category?  :)

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on January 31, 2011, 12:08 PM
Quote from: RobertB on January 31, 2011, 10:15 AM
     Lance, I have a CBM mechanical adding machine.  Would that be considered a computer for the "other" category?  :)

 

So do I - no :)

Gotta draw the line! No calcs either (of which i also have multitudes) and no typewriters :)

(sad to say, I also have a C= branded filing cabinet..........)
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: bacon on January 31, 2011, 11:00 PM
I can see why you excluded the 364 since it only exists as two or three prototypes, but why are all the other TED computers missing; the Plus/4, C16, and C116? They all went into production and at least the C16 and Plus/4 didn't sell too badly.

I checked "other" so I could include my two Plus/4s.

I also have the modern day KIM-1 clone Micro-KIM, but I guess it doesn't count since it wasn't made by CBM.

Edit: I didn't see that the CDTV was included. I have one, but I didn't even look for it in the list since I don't consider it a product made by Commodore â€" the way I see it, it was made by a company whose only connection with Commodore is the fact that they somewhere along the line bought the rights to use the brand. To me, that makes it "Commodore" as much as changing my name to Napoleon Bonaparte would make me the emperor of France.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 03:10 AM
Quote from: bacon on January 31, 2011, 11:00 PMI checked "other" so I could include my two Plus/4s.
Ah, yes, I had forgotten about my Plus/4s and C16s.  I'd better check other right now.

QuoteI also have the modern day KIM-1 clone Micro-KIM, but I guess it doesn't count since it wasn't made by CBM.
If someone had the Commodore Chessmate, that would be a computer in the other category.  (When I saw developer Peter Jennings at VCF one year, he was so proud of his machine.)
Quote
Edit: I didn't see that the CDTV was included. I have one, but I didn't even look for it in the list since I don't consider it a product made by Commodore â€" the way I see it, it was made by a company whose only connection with Commodore is the fact that they somewhere along the line bought the rights to use the brand.
Well, Amiga engineer Carl Sassenrath worked long and hard on the machine, and so, I consider it from CBM (and there is that CBM sticker on it).  Carl had lots to say about at the Amiwest Show back in October.

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 03:25 AM
     Oops, it looks as if I can't vote anymore.

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on February 01, 2011, 05:31 AM
Sorry - Plus/4 and c16 added.

Also the ability to change your vote added.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on February 01, 2011, 09:17 AM
Quote from: bacon on January 31, 2011, 11:00 PMTo me, that makes it "Commodore" as much as changing my name to Napoleon Bonaparte would make me the emperor of France.
Change it to Barack Obama and you can be the Socialist-in-Chief.  :)
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: bacon on February 01, 2011, 04:59 PM
Quote from: RobertB
Quote
Edit: I didn't see that the CDTV was included. I have one, but I didn't even look for it in the list since I don't consider it a product made by Commodore â€" the way I see it, it was made by a company whose only connection with Commodore is the fact that they somewhere along the line bought the rights to use the brand.
Well, Amiga engineer Carl Sassenrath worked long and hard on the machine, and so, I consider it from CBM (and there is that CBM sticker on it).  Carl had lots to say about at the Amiwest Show back in October.
You're right of course Robert. My apologies to the brilliant Amiga engineers. Total drain bamage on my end. I read "Amiga CDTV" but my brain saw "C64 DTV". The CDTV is obviously a Commodore computer (and I don't have one).
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: bacon on February 01, 2011, 04:59 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on February 01, 2011, 05:31 AM
Sorry - Plus/4 and c16 added.

Also the ability to change your vote added.
Thank you!

Btw, you may want to add the C116 too for completeness. It was released in Europe and there may be someone here who has one.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on February 01, 2011, 05:31 AMAlso the ability to change your vote added.
Hmm, I need clarification.  I see the button to Remove my vote.  As soon as I click that, will I be able to revote again?

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 05:28 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on February 01, 2011, 09:17 AMChange it to Barack Obama and you can be the Socialist-in-Chief.
Yuck.  Political discussion.  :(

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 05:31 PM
Quote from: bacon on February 01, 2011, 04:59 PMI read "Amiga CDTV" but my brain saw "C64 DTV".
:)  Well, CBM engineer Bil Herd did help out a little bit with the C64 DTV.

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on February 01, 2011, 07:26 PM
Quote from: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on February 01, 2011, 05:31 AMAlso the ability to change your vote added.
Hmm, I need clarification.  I see the button to Remove my vote.  As soon as I click that, will I be able to revote again?

         

Correct!
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 02, 2011, 03:17 AM
     O.K., I resubmitted my vote.  I had to combine C64 and 64C into just C64, because I had to stay within the 20 category limit.  :)

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on February 02, 2011, 04:12 AM
Quote from: RobertB on February 01, 2011, 05:28 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on February 01, 2011, 09:17 AMChange it to Barack Obama and you can be the Socialist-in-Chief.
Yuck.  Political discussion.  :(
Merely making a joke.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Hydrophilic on February 03, 2011, 01:23 AM
I answered assuming you want to know which computers I now possess.  I don't use my C64 since I got my C128 (but I still checked C64).  Friends/family have killed former models VIC-20 and Plus/4 (not checked).
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: airship on February 03, 2011, 08:44 AM
I checked "other" for my 2 64DTVs.

Which raises the issue of how many of each we own! :D

...and peripherals, controllers, software, etc...
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on February 03, 2011, 09:44 AM
Quote from: airship on February 03, 2011, 08:44 AM
I checked "other" for my 2 64DTVs.

Which raises the issue of how many of each we own! :D

...and peripherals, controllers, software, etc...

I'd hate to guess actually. Only two 128's (a flat and a  DCR), a few 64's a couple of VIC's, a PET 2001, a PET 8296 and a plethora of Amiga models (pride and joy is my A3000UX). Plus one C16 and about a dozen Plus/4's.

As for C= PC clones :

PC5 (x 2)
PC10-II
PC20-III
Colt x 3
PC40
PC60
386SLT (laptop) x 2
486SLT (laptop)

Peripherals & software? Don't even bother asking me that question!
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 03, 2011, 12:16 PM
Quote from: airship on February 03, 2011, 08:44 AM
I checked "other" for my 2 64DTVs.

Which raises the issue of how many of each we own! :D
If you are speaking of C64 DTVs, then I have two or three NTSC ones and a couple of PAL ones (not counting the PAL one that is in pieces for modding).  I also have two or three Hummer DTVs.

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: RobertB on February 03, 2011, 12:22 PM
Quote from: Blacklord on February 03, 2011, 09:44 AMAs for C= PC clones :

PC5 (x 2)
PC10-II
PC20-III
Colt x 3
PC40
PC60
386SLT (laptop) x 2
486SLT (laptop)
Ah, I forgot about my Commodore 286 laptop with Windows 3.1 in French!  It was last shown way back at CommVEx v1 (2005).

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Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on February 03, 2011, 12:35 PM
The PC 20 just got a "new" CGA monitor last week.

I'm seriously considering putting up a retro BBS on it and plugging it into the now unused phone line. Dount it'd get many calls though :)

Or I connect it up to one of the PC's and do a telnet over serial to it.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: bacon on February 03, 2011, 06:54 PM
I used to have a few Amiga 500s and 500 plusses, two A600s, three C64s, two C64Cs, three Plus/4s (one broken), two VIC 20s, and five C128s, but a few years ago I scaled back my collection and kept the three breadbox C64s, the two VICs, two of the C128s, and the two working Plus/4s.
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: issarad on February 04, 2011, 04:28 AM
Let's see... I have a C-128 (flat), an Amiga 500, Amiga 1200, Amiga 2000, and a CDTV. 
Only the C-128 and Amiga 1200 are hooked up and used regularly.  I do love my old retro games. =)
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Steve Gray on February 18, 2011, 02:50 PM
I have 3 from the list... unchecked ;-)  So I guess some were not counted. In "other" I have C116 and  Max Machine.

Steve
Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: quarkx on February 21, 2011, 10:42 AM
Ok, Get ready..
1 CBM 8032
1 Commodore PC 10-2

Vic 20 (Not working)
2 C64C
flat 128
4 plus /4 (2 NW)
3 C16 (1 NW)
3 A1000 (2NW)
4 A500 (3 NW)
3 A600 (1NW)
2 A2000
1 A3000T
1 A1200
1CDTV
1CD32



Title: Re: Poll: What Commodore computers do you own (choice of up to 20)?
Post by: Blacklord on February 21, 2011, 01:10 PM
I just added a rather ratty looking PC-10 yesterday. haven't yet powered it up or even checked it internally but the case is rather rusty so I'm expecting the worst.
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