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Title: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: Socratessa on March 07, 2011, 08:29 PM
I found a suggestion how to add a clock to the c64 or 128 by connecting it to the joystick port.

Anybody heard from this chip? Its named a smartwatch chip.
Is there a schematic around on the internet?
I got some info in cvt files but that info is really messed up.
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on March 07, 2011, 09:17 PM
Hi!


I'm not sure if you're talking about BB-RealTimeClock (photo in attachment...)



But really don't know more.




Miro
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on March 09, 2011, 04:26 PM
Quote from: Socratessa on March 07, 2011, 08:29 PMI found a suggestion how to add a clock to the c64 or 128 by connecting it to the joystick port.

Anybody heard from this chip? Its named a smartwatch chip.
Is there a schematic around on the internet?
I got some info in cvt files but that info is really messed up.
It could be what you are referring to is a Dallas 1216E SmartWatch (http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/DS1216-DS1216H.pdf), which can be plugged into the internal ROM socket in the 128.  It is designed so that it can be written to even though in a socket without a R/W signal.  Attaching it to a joystick port isn't too difficult.
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: Socratessa on March 09, 2011, 10:42 PM
Quote from: MIRKOSOFT on March 07, 2011, 09:17 PM
Hi!


I'm not sure if you're talking about BB-RealTimeClock (photo in attachment...)



But really don't know more.




Miro

Really nice addon and looks very simple. Any idea where to get this?
edit: googled but only finds are about the pc cards with this clock module

Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on March 09, 2011, 04:26 PM
Quote from: Socratessa on March 07, 2011, 08:29 PMI found a suggestion how to add a clock to the c64 or 128 by connecting it to the joystick port.

Anybody heard from this chip? Its named a smartwatch chip.
Is there a schematic around on the internet?
I got some info in cvt files but that info is really messed up.
It could be what you are referring to is a Dallas 1216E SmartWatch (http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/DS1216-DS1216H.pdf), which can be plugged into the internal ROM socket in the 128.  It is designed so that it can be written to even though in a socket without a R/W signal.  Attaching it to a joystick port isn't too difficult.

It seems that this is the chip i am talking about. Thanks for the info.
Now lets see if i can get my hand on such a chip and if its executable to add it to my joystick port.

Thanks for info both  :-* still always in for some new info if someone have that about this subject please share it.
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: airship on March 10, 2011, 05:00 AM
BDD, you continue to amaze me. Maxim (which owns Dallas Semi) still manufactures these chips. You can buy them in single-unit quantity for $28.26 + shpg. from their web store at https://shop.maxim-ic.com/storefront/ I've added it to my 'must-have' list of stuff to buy for my C128. I wonder if it will work with megabit's ROM adapter?
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: RobertB on March 10, 2011, 06:34 AM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on March 09, 2011, 04:26 PM
It could be what you are referring to is a Dallas 1216E SmartWatch...
What a surprise!  I didn't know it was still available.  Now how do you set the time in it?

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Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on March 10, 2011, 12:12 PM
Quote from: airship on March 10, 2011, 05:00 AM
BDD, you continue to amaze me. Maxim (which owns Dallas Semi) still manufactures these chips. You can buy them in single-unit quantity for $28.26 + shpg. from their web store at https://shop.maxim-ic.com/storefront/ (https://shop.maxim-ic.com/storefront/) I've added it to my 'must-have' list of stuff to buy for my C128. I wonder if it will work with megabit's ROM adapter?

The 1216E works in any JEDEC-standard 28 pin ROM socket, which includes the ROM socket inside the C-128.  I haven't actually tried the 1216E there, but I do know a 27C256 EPROM works in that socket.  Since the 27C256 is JEDEC, no reason why the SmartWatch shouldn't work as well.

Quote from: RobertB on March 10, 2011, 06:34 AM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on March 09, 2011, 04:26 PMIt could be what you are referring to is a Dallas 1216E SmartWatch...
What a surprise!  I didn't know it was still available.  Now how do you set the time in it?

Any access to the 1216E involves a bit-serial technique, in which you do successive reads on its base address (for a total of 64 iterations) in a certain pattern.  Once that is done, the chip will respond to reads or writes.  As it is designed to work in a ROM socket, where the MPU's R/W line normally wouldn't be present, it's all done by toggle the address lines at the socket in a certain sequence.  The details are too complicated for me to regurgitate.  That's why data sheets exist.   

Incidentally, the E in the part number means the chip works in a 28 pin JEDEC socket.  An F part would fit a 32 pin socket, using a 64Kb, 256Kb or 1 Mb ROM.  The
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: RobertB on March 10, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on March 10, 2011, 12:12 PMThe details are too complicated for me to regurgitate.
Then a program must be made so that a user can easily set the time on it.

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Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: airship on March 11, 2011, 05:54 AM
Quote from: RobertB on March 10, 2011, 03:57 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on March 10, 2011, 12:12 PMThe details are too complicated for me to regurgitate.
Then a program must be made so that a user can easily set the time on it.
If it's just a question of sending a series of addresses and/or read requests, that would be no problem. If it requires a specific timing sequence, that would be harder.
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128 - BB-RealTimeClock
Post by: MIRKOSOFT on March 13, 2011, 04:50 AM
Hi!


I wrote first about BB-RealTimeClock connecting to Control Port.


On web I found any software for that. You can download, it's in attachment.


Miro
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: Blacklord on September 23, 2024, 02:32 PM
test
Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: BigDumbDinosaur on September 23, 2024, 03:42 PM
Testing 1 2 3

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Title: Re: Clock chip on 64/128
Post by: Blacklord on September 23, 2024, 03:48 PM
Quote from: BigDumbDinosaur on September 23, 2024, 03:42 PMTesting 1 2 3

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