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Commodore 128 => Herdware => Topic started by: Mark Smith on January 31, 2007, 06:31 PM

Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: Mark Smith on January 31, 2007, 06:31 PM
Hi there,

I managed to bag a Currah Speech cartridge ... mainly because I used to own one and wanted it again :-)

However it plugs into the Video port of the C64/C128 but I've already got a audio/video cable plugged into this for the 1084s monitor ... anyone got any ideas as to how to splice the two together ?  I'm assuming the Speech cart is just feeding audio into the SID which then is output again via the SIDs output, but just want to be sure.

Regards

Mark
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: Mangelore on January 31, 2007, 07:09 PM
Howdy,

If you're existing monitor cable doesn't use pin 6 (Chroma Out) then one of these cables will do the trick.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Pro-Keyboard-splitter-PIN/dp/B00009VGSF
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: hydrophilic on February 01, 2007, 05:28 AM
The 1902 (for sure) and the 1084 (I think) both use pin 6 for better resolution; seperate Y/C is only marginaly better than composite.  My 1902 died I while back, so I could be wrong, but I remember (!) it had settings for either composite or Y/C.  If your 1084s will let you switch like the 1902, then _MAYBE_ you can use the cable Mangelore suggests.  Looking at the cable, I would say no; only you can say for sure, strandedinnz

I've got some type of sound cartride like you've got (just a black box with no name), but it has a video splitter: one male and one female (8-pin DIN).  The monitor plugs into the female and the male plugs into the Commie.  I tried finding one on the net for you but search engines are stupid, gives me junk like mini DIN or 5 and 6 pins!

If you want to do wire splicing, know that pin 3 is audio out and pin 5 is audio in.  Looking at the back of your Commie: \     /
3  '  -
 5 | \

As you can tell, I failed ASCII art.
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: Mangelore on February 01, 2007, 06:29 AM
Hi, my 1084 let's you use composite only. Pin 4 is video out.

With a cable like this
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330080312680
and the other one above you should be fine.

- But it also depends on the speech cartridge plug. Is it a 5 pin or 6 pin DIN plug? -

Cheers
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: RobertB on February 02, 2007, 04:25 PM
Quote from: hydrophilic... seperate Y/C is only marginaly better than composite.
Nah, you can really tell the difference between that of separate chroma/luma and that of composite when using a 1701/1702 monitor.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: hydrophilic on February 05, 2007, 07:37 AM
Really?  Must be my eyes cuz be it a Commodore, a Playstation, or a DVD player, I never see a difference from composite vs Y/C (S-Video).  Maybe the 1902 has really good color seperation?  It also has comb filter that I couldn't see any differnece with.
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: RobertB on February 05, 2007, 09:42 AM
Quote from: hydrophilicReally?  Must be my eyes...
Yup, it must be your eyes (or your monitor).

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: Steve Gray on March 24, 2007, 12:15 AM
Quote from: strandedinnzHi there,

I managed to bag a Currah Speech cartridge ... mainly because I used to own one and wanted it again :-)

However it plugs into the Video port of the C64/C128 but I've already got a audio/video cable plugged into this for the 1084s monitor ... anyone got any ideas as to how to splice the two together ?  I'm assuming the Speech cart is just feeding audio into the SID which then is output again via the SIDs output, but just want to be sure.

Regards

Mark
I have two of those cartridges. The best thing to do is cut off the din connector and replace it with an RCA jack so you can feed the audio to your monitor. You can combine the C64's audio and the Currah audio at the monitor with a Y cable.

Steve
Title: Another new toy .. but need some advise ...
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on March 24, 2007, 11:22 AM
This website shows the pinout for the C64 video port:
http://pinouts.ru/Multimedia/AudioVideoC64_pinout.shtml

You could do like has already been suggested, and combine the C64 audio and Currah audio at the monitor with a Y-cable...  OR, you could make your own monitor cable, with a female connector attached to pin 5, which is audio in.  Then connect the Currah audio to that.

-Andrew
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