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General => General chat => Topic started by: OzOne on February 26, 2007, 06:58 PM

Title: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: OzOne on February 26, 2007, 06:58 PM
I've got a chance to pick up a 4MHz Turbo Master accelerator cartridge for the C64.

However, as I've only got a 128 at the moment, does anyone know if this thing will work on it ? (obviously not in 128 mode)

Oz
Title: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Mangelore on February 26, 2007, 08:00 PM
According to this FAQ it should work in C64 mode only...

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/commodore/main-faq/part8/

but hopefully someone who has one can confirm.
Title: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Mark Smith on February 27, 2007, 05:34 AM
Pick it up anyway, then take it apart, take many pictures and grab dumps of the ROMs .. then we can all have one ;-)
Title: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on February 27, 2007, 06:50 AM
Quote from: OzOneI've got a chance to pick up a 4MHz Turbo Master accelerator cartridge for the C64.
Congratulations, fellow TMer!
Quote from: OzOneHowever, as I've only got a 128 at the moment, does anyone know if this thing will work on it ? (obviously not in 128 mode)
Yes, it will.  For it to work, flip the switch to disable the cart and then power up in C128 mode (80 or 40-column).  Issue a GO64 and when in C64 mode, then flip the cart switch to enable it again.  Voila!  You'll be in TM mode at 4.09 mhz.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Title: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Blacklord on February 27, 2007, 07:46 AM
Just where do you fellow Aussies find these little treasures ?

Cheers,

Lance
Title: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: OzOne on February 27, 2007, 06:49 PM
Quote from: adminJust where do you fellow Aussies find these little treasures ?

Cheers,

Lance
Would you believe a neighbour is tossing out a whole s**tload of Commie stuff ?

So I offered to take (some) of it off him, it's mostly games disks, printers, a 1600 modem, the CPU cartridge & a lot of tapes.

Wasn't sure if the cart would work on the 128, if it didn't I would've eBayed it.

Oz
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 16, 2008, 03:51 PM
Quote from: OzOne on February 26, 2007, 06:58 PMI've got a chance to pick up a 4MHz Turbo Master accelerator cartridge for the C64.
Yeah, I'm on an old-time accelerator kick at the moment.  :)  Does the TM work well with your PAL Commodore?  I've heard stories that it is only NTSC-compatible.

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 20, 2008, 02:01 PM
Quote from: me on December 16, 2008, 03:51 PMYeah, I'm on an old-time accelerator kick at the moment.
Andrew Wiskow is kindly hosting 2 photos of the internals of my Turbo Master CPU.  Go to

                  http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow/tm.htm

Photos by Dick Estel.  Expect a few more photos of the Turbo Master CPU in the future, especially better focused ones and one without the original, handwritten sticker which is covering that chip.

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 04:29 PM
Quote from: RobertB on December 20, 2008, 02:01 PMAndrew Wiskow is kindly hosting 2 photos of the internals of my Turbo Master CPU.  Go to

                  http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow/tm.htm

If anyone has any additional photos of their own Turbo Master CPU that they'd like to add, feel free to send them to me, and I'll add them to the page.  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: SmallCleverDinosaur on December 20, 2008, 08:57 PM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 04:29 PM
If anyone has any additional photos of their own Turbo Master CPU that they'd like to add, feel free to send them to me, and I'll add them to the page.  :)
Mr Wiskow, I have these:

(http://www.commodore128.org.uk/images/forumpics/4mhz.jpg)

Not from my own card though, since I don't have one :( Picked these up on the internet.
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 09:45 PM
Quote from: SmallCleverDinosaur on December 20, 2008, 08:57 PMMr Wiskow, I have these:

(http://www.commodore128.org.uk/images/forumpics/4mhz.jpg)

Not from my own card though, since I don't have one :( Picked these up on the internet.

Where on the Internet are these photos at?  I seem to only be able to seem them in miniature here.
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: SmallCleverDinosaur on December 21, 2008, 08:47 AM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 20, 2008, 09:45 PM
Where on the Internet are these photos at?  I seem to only be able to seem them in miniature here.
Oh, I don't remember where I found them, but I have them on my harddrive. Shall I mail them to you?
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 21, 2008, 04:22 PM
Quote from: SmallCleverDinosaur on December 21, 2008, 08:47 AM
Oh, I don't remember where I found them, but I have them on my harddrive. Shall I mail them to you?

Sure!  My e-mail address is listed under my profile here.  Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Golan Klinger on December 21, 2008, 04:54 PM
There's a large website repository of photos of Commodore equipment and peripherals. The name escapes me but I could dig out the URL if you're curious. Pictures of just about everything but they're always accepting submissions. Sort of a photographic version of Project 64.
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 21, 2008, 05:05 PM
     Now all we need are a photo or two of the underside of the board.  A future photographic shoot.

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 21, 2008, 05:20 PM
Quote from: Golan Klinger on December 21, 2008, 04:54 PM
There's a large website repository of photos of Commodore equipment and peripherals. The name escapes me but I could dig out the URL if you're curious. Pictures of just about everything but they're always accepting submissions. Sort of a photographic version of Project 64.

I may have seen it already, but if you can find the URL, I'd like to check it out.  This site (http://www.8bit.dk/pictures/) is one that I refer to quite often when I need some good quality photos of Commodore hardware.
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: SmallCleverDinosaur on December 21, 2008, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Golan Klinger on December 21, 2008, 04:54 PM
There's a large website repository of photos of Commodore equipment and peripherals. The name escapes me but I could dig out the URL if you're curious. Pictures of just about everything but they're always accepting submissions. Sort of a photographic version of Project 64.
Golan, it would be great if you could find that URL! :)

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 21, 2008, 04:22 PM
Sure!  My e-mail address is listed under my profile here.  Thanks.  :)
The pictures are in your mail now :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 26, 2008, 05:49 PM
Quote from: me on December 21, 2008, 05:05 PMNow all we need are a photo or two of the underside of the board.
Made a trip and grabbed the Turbo Master CPU from where it was sitting in the house.  Andrew, I hope that soon I'll be able to send you more photos of the TM CPU, including the back side.

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 26, 2008, 08:33 PM
Quote from: RobertB on December 26, 2008, 05:49 PMAndrew, I hope that soon I'll be able to send you more photos of the TM CPU, including the back side.

Sounds good!  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 28, 2008, 01:39 PM
     I'm bringing the Turbo Master CPU to the January 11 SCCAN meeting.

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 29, 2008, 08:59 AM
Quote from: RobertB on December 28, 2008, 01:39 PM
     I'm bringing the Turbo Master CPU to the January 11 SCCAN meeting.

In that case, I could easily take some photos with my own digital camera...
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 29, 2008, 04:56 PM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 29, 2008, 08:59 AMIn that case, I could easily take some photos with my own digital camera...
That's possible.
     OT, I just lost a roll of film with Christmas photos on it.  It was in my pocket, but when I got to Walgreens, it had vanished.  :-(

                I suppose it would be the same
                if I had lost a camera card for a digital camera,
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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 29, 2008, 05:44 PM
Quote from: RobertB on December 29, 2008, 04:56 PMOT, I just lost a roll of film with Christmas photos on it.  It was in my pocket, but when I got to Walgreens, it had vanished.  :-(

I'm very sorry to hear that...  The same thing happened to me with a roll of film that I shot while I was in Vladivostok, Russia, several years ago.  :(
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on December 29, 2008, 05:53 PM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 29, 2008, 05:44 PMThe same thing happened to me with a roll of film that I shot while I was in Vladivostok, Russia, several years ago.  :(
The worst was when my Nikon N65 was stolen.  It had precious photos of MossyCon 1 (2005).

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on December 29, 2008, 09:28 PM
Quote from: RobertB on December 29, 2008, 05:53 PMThe worst was when my Nikon N65 was stolen.  It had precious photos of MossyCon 1 (2005).

Ouch.  :(
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on January 01, 2009, 12:27 PM
     Roll of Christmas photos found!  It had lodged itself under the seat of the car.  Now it's at Walgreen's, getting developed.
     Unfortunately, the Nikon N65 was never recovered, even though a police report was filed.  However, I replaced it with the even better Nikon N80.  The only other person to take photos of MossyCon 1 was Jeri Ellsworth.  She used a some old digital camera, and I don't think she ever made prints of those shots.
     These days I stare at the reduced prices of medium-format cameras, such as the Pentax 67, the Mamiya 7ii, the Bronica RF645, and the Kiev 60.

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on January 12, 2009, 06:52 PM
Quote from: me on December 28, 2008, 01:39 PM
     I'm bringing the Turbo Master CPU to the January 11 SCCAN meeting.
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on December 29, 2008, 08:59 AM
In that case, I could easily take some photos with my own digital camera...
More photos taken of the TM CPU, including the underside of the board.  We await the results from Andrew!  :)

              A successful SCCAN meeting,
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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on January 13, 2009, 05:20 PM
Quote from: RobertB on January 12, 2009, 06:52 PMMore photos taken of the TM CPU, including the underside of the board.  We await the results from Andrew!  :)

Soon, very soon...  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on January 14, 2009, 04:43 PM
The photos I shot at this past Sunday's SCCAN meeting can be found here (http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow/tmws.htm).  Enjoy!  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on January 15, 2009, 03:55 PM
     For everybody's information, we tried my TM CPU with the PromDOS and Promenade clone that Andrew brought, and TM CPU speeded up the processing of the program!

               Compatibility with burning EPROMs,
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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on January 15, 2009, 08:32 PM
Quote from: RobertB on January 15, 2009, 03:55 PM
     For everybody's information, we tried my TM CPU with the PromDOS and Promenade clone that Andrew brought, and TM CPU speeded up the processing of the program!

Robert, that's PromShell, not PromDOS.  Which, by the way, is available for downloading on my website (http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow).  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: RobertB on January 16, 2009, 01:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 15, 2009, 08:32 PMRobert, that's PromShell, not PromDOS.
Oops, maybe I should review the tape (or review the pics at the updated Sccaners.org website) before I identify programs.  :)  I can only blame my bleary eyes, after working on editing the AmiWest Show 2003 video before sending it to BIOS for upload to Blip.tv  ;)

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Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on January 16, 2009, 07:52 PM
As the Aussies say, "No worries!"  ;)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: airship on January 17, 2009, 04:52 AM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 16, 2009, 07:52 PM
As the Aussies say, "No worries!"  ;)
You forgot the ", Mate!" at the end of that. :)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on January 17, 2009, 06:12 AM
Quote from: airship on January 17, 2009, 04:52 AMYou forgot the ", Mate!" at the end of that. :)

I didn't want to get too carried away...  ;)
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Blacklord on January 17, 2009, 10:47 AM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 17, 2009, 06:12 AM
Quote from: airship on January 17, 2009, 04:52 AMYou forgot the ", Mate!" at the end of that. :)

I didn't want to get too carried away...  ;)

Actually, it's "no wuckin' forries" - I think you can work that out :) Also shortened to "no wuckers".

Cheers,

Lance
Title: Re: Turbo Master CPU
Post by: Andrew Wiskow on January 18, 2009, 04:23 AM
Quote from: Blacklord on January 17, 2009, 10:47 AMAlso shortened to "no wuckers".

Hehehehe...  I like it!!!  ;D
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