What OS are you ?

[Blacklord]

http://bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz.php

Unfortunately I'm Windows 95 :förbannad:

[Mark Smith]

ha!  OS X .. which is what I'm on now .. the Apple aura must penetrate deep!

[Golan Klinger]

A fellow Mac user, eh? Our numbers are growing.

[bacon]

Debian Linux just as it should be. My web server/firewall runs Debian and my desktop box runs the Debian derivative Kubuntu

[airship]

I am AMIGA!!! Cool!:tummenupp:

[Guest]

Slackware here.  Which is funny, because Slackware sent me running screaming away from Linux for years.

[Mangelore]

AmigaOS! :tummenupp:

[hydrophilic]

Debian Linux.  Linux needs a full-screen editor in terminal mode.  Commodore sure spoiled me!

[bacon]

Debian Linux.  Linux needs a full-screen editor in terminal mode.  Commodore sure spoiled me!

Uh, you mean something like VIM or Nano? At least one of them is included in every Linux distro. Of course, the shell itself isn't full-screen, if that's what you're referring to.

[hydrophilic]

Yep, I meant the shell.  Bash in particular.  I haven't tried cshl, assuming it is also line-oriented.  Of course Linux is not unique here.  DOS and CP/M and Window's CMD are also lame!  It's just that I do alot more at the terminal on Linux than DOS etc.  Command history and completion help, but its just NOT the same as full screen editor.  I love my Commie!

I remember the first time I used DOS and kept hitting [cursor up] and the cursor just sat.  I was yelling at the machine and people were like, dude what are you trying to do?

Edit
I find it ironic that the VIC-20 and C=64 have only 2 cursor keys for full-screen editing while the PC at that time had 4 cursor keys but only left and right worked!

[Blacklord]

I find it ironic that the VIC-20 and C=64 have only 2 cursor keys for full-screen editing while the PC at that time had 4 cursor keys but only left and right worked!

You need to compare apples with apples (or is that Commodores with IBMs ?).....

DOS is just a shell, the up & down keys certainly don't work in what is basically a single-line oriented system (not counting later versions where DOSKEY allowed you to use the up & down arrows to scroll through your history commands - something that Basic can't do anyway without help).

However, if you booted into BASICA or GW-BASIC then the behaviour is exactly the same, the cursor keys will work up & down. So in that respect, the machines were identical.

cheers,

Lance

[airship]

While I always loved the CBM screen editor, I thought the C64's biggest problem was the lack of usable built-in system commands.

To access the disk on The C64, you could use OPEN and all those weird Commodore DOS commands, then read variables, but on other systems you could just DELETE a file, or DIR to get a directory. On the C64, you need a wedge to do any useful disk accesses in real mode.

The C128 addresses many, but not all, of those problems. We've got DIRECTORY (which I always shorten to d-i-shifted/R to make it more reasonable), HEADER, SCRATCH, etc. But we still lack commands to COPY between real drives (who's got a dual drive, anyway? anybody?), or to TYPE or MORE a SEQ file, etc. Has anyone burnt replacement BASIC ROMs that fix this shortcoming? I'd even settle for an expansion socket BASIC extender. I've looked at the readme for the Servant. Is that worthwhile?

[David Nelson]

Palm OS?! What the heck!
How embarassing.

[Guest]

JiffyDOS has all of that.

[airship]

I suppose I'm going to have to break down and get an EPROM programmer and burn a copy of JiffyDOS for my C128 and each of my 1571s. And the 2 1581s I hope to bring back from the ECCC convention. Too bad it won't work with 64HDD.

[bacon]

I've replaced the KERNAL with JiffyDOS and put the Servant in the internal Function ROM socket. JiffyDOS is great for simple disk manipulation, single file copying and such, while the Servant has a great set of menu-driven disk utilities for whole disk copying, directory editing, making bootable disks, etc. They're a very good combination.

For convience's sake I followed the excellent instructions that came with the Servant on how to disable the Servant's function key definitions since I prefer the JiffyDOS definitions.

Edit: Re 64HDD, at least JiffyDOS's built-in wedge still works with 64HDD. I have more or less the same setup that you have, i.e. a Win98 machine dedicated to 64HDD Professional/Star Commander, and the wedge commands work fine. I don't use 64HDD that much though since I like the feel of real floppy disks and I have boxes full of them (a few years ago I came across two shops clearing out old stuff from their warehouses. I got several hundred NOS disks for a very good price).

[airship]

My concern with floppies is age. Though I've been very careful with the storage of my old disks, the sad truth is this: They Rust. I bought a box of 'NOS' disks on eBay and though they looked good, they were bad. Very, very bad. For days, I thought I had drive problems until I looked into one of the pristine white sleeves and saw a fine brown powder. That was my data.

[bacon]

Ouch! Luckily I'm paranoid about backups. As soon as I've made any significant changes to a disk I transfer it to either my main Linux PC using WarpCopy/RR-net, or with Star Commander to the Win 98 box.