I have a C128 and a 1581. Can a Jiffy Dos for a C64 and 1541 work? I assume I need a Jiffy Dos designed specific for the C128 and 1581.
You need the 128 and 1581 versions of JiffyDOS.
Mangelore is right. See here (http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25000) to get 'em. ;)
-Andrew
QuoteMangelore is right. See here to get 'em.
He,He, it's labeled "(Maurice)DOS".
Dan...
Unfortunately for me, I am not able to contact him! The web site "sees" I'm trying to register but won't accept my sign on. Oh, I tried emailing cmdrkey.com. No response. Must not want to make any money.
Quote from: zeke1312Unfortunately for me, I am not able to contact him! The web site "sees" I'm trying to register but won't accept my sign on. Oh, I tried emailing cmdrkey.com. No response. Must not want to make any money.
You're being very fortunate. All anecdotal evidence the last few months points to him not fulfilling any orders, not even for JiffyDOS.
OK. I received an email from Francois Leveille with his price list. I assume you mean that cmdrkey is the skeptical source while Francois Leveille is a good source? My previous post was not clearly stated.
Quote from: zeke1312OK. I received an email from Francois Leveille with his price list. I assume you mean that cmdrkey is the skeptical source while Francois Leveille is a good source? My previous post was not clearly stated.
That is correct. :)
-Andrew
Maurice Randall and Click Here Software are the only purveyors of legitimate JiffYDOS (used notwithstanding) but he/they don't ship prodcut. Francois Leveille is a purveyor of illegitimate JiffYDOS and he does ship and promptly at that. You can purchase from him with confidence. It's worth noting that he charges a very small amount, just enough to cover parts and labour. He's not raking in the dough with this enterprise. He is doing it to help the community.
Speaking of JiffyDOS clones, here' a story you might find interesting. There's a guy in eBay (basicwayne (http://myworld.ebay.com/basicwayne)) who sells illegitimate copies of JiffyDOS for quite a bit of money and, here's the kicker, he puts fake stickers on them to make them look real. He tells potential customers that they're legitimate and they are NOT. Recently he had a few bids on his knock-offs from someone whose eBay ID is mauricerandall (http://myworld.ebay.com/mauricerandall). Shortly before the auction(s) ended the bids were cancelled and the auctions removed. For the first time in months basicwayne didn't have any JiffyDOS for sale and now he's back selling them again. This is going to get ugly.
What's interesting about that (if the guy called mauricerandall really is Maurice Randall) is that he's not filling orders himself, but is trolling eBay to make sure nobody else is selling it, either.
Quote from: airshipWhat's interesting about that (if the guy called mauricerandall really is Maurice Randall) is that he's not filling orders himself, but is trolling eBay to make sure nobody else is selling it, either.
Part 1: It is *that* Maurice.
Part 2: He was tipped off.
Regardless, it is interesting that he's interesting in defending his IP but not satisfying the demand that leads to piracy.
Sounds to me like time wasted that could be put to better use doing other things... like filling orders[/i]! :förbannad:
-Andrew
Is the Jiffy1571D.rom in this archive http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/JiffyDOS.zip the correct ROM for the 1571 drive or is it for the 1571 in the 128D? If it isn't is there somewhere to get the correct ROM for the 1571?
Quote from: pearsoeIs the Jiffy1571D.rom in this archive http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/JiffyDOS.zip the correct ROM for the 1571 drive or is it for the 1571 in the 128D? If it isn't is there somewhere to get the correct ROM for the 1571?
It's the ROM image for the 128D's internal disk drive. The image for the 1571 is NOT included in the archive at Andrew's website. I made that archive available and Andrew took the liberty of rehosting the images on his website (he has a habit of unilaterally commandeering projects) before I was able to complete the archive. I'll be damned if I'm going to send him the missing images. If he's so keen, he can dump them himself.
All I have ever tried to do was help people out and make things available that weren't previously readily available. I took over maintaining a detailed list of Commodore BBS's that hadn't been done for over three years. I've hosted several documents on my website (http://mysite.verizon.net/wiskow) that I wasn't able to find anywhere on the Internet. I added the archive of JiffyDOS ROM's to my website when Golan made the link available on Lemon64 to an obscure, not easy to find file hosting service. Like everything else I've hosted on my site, I thought it'd be nice to have it in a place that was easier to find.
I've received nothing but compliments for everything I've ever done in my ongoing support of the Commodore community... That is, except from Golan. I've never unilaterally commandeered a project; at least not knowingly. The detailed BBS List that I took over maintaining was previously maintained by Snakeman. I tried to contact him for his permission to take over the list before doing it. After getting no response from him, I decided to go ahead and do it. I always try to give credit where credit is due, and I made it known that the initial "short list" of BBS's came from the list that Golan had up on the PETSCII forum. But all the detailed information that I added was gathered by me by getting in touch with each and every SysOp of every BBS. And I update the list monthly by continuing to call each and every BBS, adding new BBS's and deleting old BBS's when necessary. The collection of JiffyDOS ROM's, like I said, was provided by Golan as well, and I've never told anyone anything contrary to that fact. I didn't intend to come off as "unilaterally commandeering a project". I was merely trying to make a useful collection of ROM's more readily available. If Golan had a problem with me hosting this collection of ROM's, all he had to do was ask me to remove it. If he were to put up a website with a regularly updated collection of these ROM's, I'd really have no reason to host it on mine, and I'd just direct people to his. But as far as I know, this collection still isn't readily available anywhere, so I've continued to host it for anyone who wants it. I can only assume from his comment here that Golan apparently believes that these ROM's should only be made available to a select group of people who he deems fit.
I've never had a personal problem with Golan, nor anyone in the Commodore community for that matter, but he apparently has a personal problem with me. I apparently can't do the right thing in his eyes, so all I can do is go on with my life and continue to help others whenever I can. I'd like to do the right thing in the eyes of 100% of the Commodore community, but apparently I'll just have to be happy with 99.99%.
'nuff said.
-Andrew
Quote'nuff said.
-Andrew
:hurra:
Dan...
That was quite the performance, Andrew. Itzhak Perlman couldn't have done any better.
Quote from: wiskowI added the archive of JiffyDOS ROM's to my website when Golan made the link available on Lemon64 to an obscure, not easy to find file hosting service.
The location of the file archive was my choice and intentional. If I had wanted to register jiffydos.org and put them there, I would have.
QuoteLike everything else I've hosted on my site, I thought it'd be nice to have it in a place that was easier to find.
I must have missed the email where you asked me how I felt about that.
QuoteI've received nothing but compliments for everything I've ever done in my ongoing support of the Commodore community... That is, except from Golan.
Perhaps that's because I'm one of the few people who says what I think. Your actions and tireless self-promotion have been discussed a few times behind closed virtual doors and I'm not alone in being tired of your behaviour. That really isn't the point though.
QuoteI can only assume from his comment here that Golan apparently believes that these ROM's should only be made available to a select group of people who he deems fit.
I trust you know what your assumption makes you. :)
I might remind you that when you showed up in the 'community' a little more than a year ago, I was one of the first to welcome you and I helped you as best I could. Let me assure you that my opinion of you wasn't formed capriciously. Anyway, this discussion is pointless because you just don't get where I'm coming from and leopards don't change their spots.
Quote from: gklingerI must have missed the email where you asked me how I felt about that.
You didn't miss the e-mail, because I never sent one. In fact, it wasn't until your post earlier today that I ever had any idea that it was your collection of JiffyDOS ROM's. There's nothing in the zip file that gives any hint that it's your collection, you never said that it was your collection on Lemon64, and like I said, it was on a fileserver that was not easy to find. There was nothing there that said "Golan's fileserver" that I can recall, and you never mentioned in your post on Lemon64 that it was yours. As best as I can recall, you just gave the link to it in a post with not much else said.
Quote from: gklingerPerhaps that's because I'm one of the few people who says what I think. Your actions and tireless self-promotion have been discussed a few times behind closed virtual doors and I'm not alone in being tired of your behaviour. That really isn't the point though.
What you've somehow misconstrued as "tireless self-promotion" is nothing of the sort. I have nothing to gain from what I've done. It's all been for the joy of the hobby, and I've done my best to help others as much as possible.
Quote from: gklingerI might remind you that when you showed up in the 'community' a little more than a year ago, I was one of the first to welcome you and I helped you as best I could. Let me assure you that my opinion of you wasn't formed capriciously. Anyway, this discussion is pointless because you just don't get where I'm coming from and leopards don't change their spots.
Yes, I do remember that you were both welcoming and helpful twoard me, and I've tried to be just as welcoming and helpful twoards others who are "new to the fold". In fact, it wasn't until I started maintaining that long-dead detailed list of BBS's that you had anything unkind to say to me. If there's something that I don't "get", then I wish that you'd explain it to me instead of talking about me behind "closed virtual doors", as you've said. You say that leopards don't change their spots. Well, if changing my spots requires that I be less helpful twoards others, then no, that probably isn't going to happen. But if I've slighted you in some way, you only need to tell me what I need to do to make things right, and I'll try my best to be accomodating. Do you want to take over maintining the detailed list of BBS's on a monthly basis? Be my guest... It'd be less work for me to do and more time I can spend with my family. Would you like me to take the collection of JiffyDOS ROM's off of my website? Just tell me so. But on the flipside, if you don't have a place of your own to host it, and you'd like to help me keep it updated with the latest ROM's, that would certainly be appreciated.
Bottom line... Say what you want to say to my face and not behind my back. Differences can be resolved much more quickly that way.
-Andrew
Quote from: wiskowWhat you've somehow misconstrued as "tireless self-promotion" is nothing of the sort. I have nothing to gain from what I've done. It's all been for the joy of the hobby, and I've done my best to help others as much as possible.
Andrew is a benefit to the C= community. His efforts to further the cause of our Commodore hobby are generous and unselfish.
Sincerely,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Quote from: wiskowSounds to me like time wasted that could be put to better use doing other things... like filling orders[/i]! :förbannad:
-Andrew
What killed me was that he had time to port JiffyDOS to the VIC, plus/4 and 16, but didn't have time to go through several years worth of repairs that people have sent to him.
I ordered my set of Jiffy Dos chips for my C128 and 1581 yesterday from Francois. USD $35.00 for both sets!:)
I ordered my set of Jiffy Dos chips for my C128 and 1581 yesterday from Francois. USD $35.00 for both sets!:)
Quote from: plbyrdWhat killed me was that he had time to port JiffyDOS to the VIC, plus/4 and 16...
C16? I've not heard that Maurice made a version for the C16.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Just to further clarify things... I did some digging just now and found Golan's post on Lemon64 that I originally got the collection on JiffyDOS ROM's from. It's dated 23Jan07:
Quote from: "gklinger"If you're interested in JiffyDOS and can't be bothered visiting Arnold, you might want to click here (http://www.divshare.com/download/69499-96e) (that link will initiate a download). This isn't a violation of Lemon's rules as the software is already in the biggest archive of freely and legally available 64 software. If Maurice objects I'm sure he'll send make that known publicly.
As you can see, Golan says nothing in this post about this being his collection. The link still works, and if you follow it, you'll see nothing there that would lead a person to believe that it's his. And finally, on my own website where I've hosted this collection, there is nowhere that it says "Andrew's collection of JiffyDOS ROM's" or anything that would lead anyone to believe that I was trying to take credit for it. I'm just merely making it available.
-Andrew
Quote from: RobertBAndrew is a benefit to the C= community. His efforts to further the cause of our Commodore hobby are generous and unselfish.
Thanks for the kind words, Robert. This is precisely how I've hoped my efforts would be seen by everyone. Unfortunately, it appears I'll just have to accept the fact that there will always be people who will be malcontent no matter what I try to do.
BTW - You may notice on my website (http://mysite.verizon.net/wiskow) that the second-to-last link on the page, right before the link to the JiffyDOS ROM's, is a D64 of TouchTerm v3.7. I searched for this, found it, made a d64 of it, and put it up there after Golan asked for it on the PETSCII forums. I never got any thanks from him or anyone else for my efforts on this, and I never asked for anything either.
-Andrew
Quote from: wiskowI never got any thanks from him or anyone else for my efforts on this, and I never asked for anything either.
That can be changed ;)
Thanks for all your efforts! :tummenupp:
Regards WTE
PS: You are right. No one is giving thanks to all the guys who serve the community. And no one should expect any thanks.
But it's always nice to get some :D
Quote from: pearsoeIs the Jiffy1571D.rom in this archive http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/JiffyDOS.zip the correct ROM for the 1571 drive or is it for the 1571 in the 128D? If it isn't is there somewhere to get the correct ROM for the 1571?
Pearsoe,
I just added the correct ROM for the 1571 to that zip file. I also renamed most of the files so they look more "orderly". :)
Enjoy. :)
-Andrew
Quote from: wiskowQuote from: pearsoeIs the Jiffy1571D.rom in this archive http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/JiffyDOS.zip the correct ROM for the 1571 drive or is it for the 1571 in the 128D? If it isn't is there somewhere to get the correct ROM for the 1571?
Pearsoe,
I just added the correct ROM for the 1571 to that zip file. I also renamed most of the files so they look more "orderly". :)
Enjoy. :)
-Andrew
Do you mind if I add these to the file area here ?
Quote from: adminDo you mind if I add these to the file area here ?
*I* don't mind, no... But then again, it's not my collection. ;)
-Andrew
My Jiffy Dos is on its way. $35.00 including shipping. Not a bad price?
anyone got v6 roms for the 1541?
Hello everyone!
Is it really worth it to get Jiffy Dos for the 128 and 1571 drives? I have never used a machine with it installed.
Thanks!!!
Douglas
:)
Absolutely. It speeds up disk access and the wedge speeds you up. :)
Quote from: smfanyone got v6 roms for the 1541?
and v6 for the oceanic oc 118n?
does anyone know what the differences are? I'd like to disassemble a v5 and v6, but nobody seems to have both for the same drive.
with maurice not delivering, it seems like they're just going to disappear for ever.
Quote from: smfdoes anyone know what the differences are? I'd like to disassemble a v5 and v6, but nobody seems to have both for the same drive.
I have v5 and v6 for the 1571... Would that help? I haven't made a dump of the v5 chip, but if you like, I'll make one for you.
-Andrew
Quote from: wiskowQuote from: smfdoes anyone know what the differences are? I'd like to disassemble a v5 and v6, but nobody seems to have both for the same drive.
I have v5 and v6 for the 1571... Would that help? I haven't made a dump of the v5 chip, but if you like, I'll make one for you.
-Andrew
yes thank you, that would be very interesting. it might not be conclusive as there might be bugs fixed in one drive that never existed in another, but it should be possible to work out if anything in jiffydos changed significantly.
does anyone know if there was a v5 for the 1581 as well? obviously with those being a tiny bit rarer at the time, there is less chance of one turning up.
Quote from: smfyes thank you, that would be very interesting. it might not be conclusive as there might be bugs fixed in one drive that never existed in another, but it should be possible to work out if anything in jiffydos changed significantly.
Okay... I'll try to make a dump of my v5 chip in the next few days.
On another note... I finally got around to scanning in the JiffyDOS installation instructions that Lord Ronin loaned me. There are now complete scans of the JiffyDOS installation instructions for C64 and 1571 available for downloading on my website at http://mysite.verizon.net/wiskow/ ... Does anyone have any others? Oh... I just looked, and I have the installation instructions for 1541, too... I'll have to add that later. But if anyone has any others that they could add, I'd like to try to put together as complete a set as possible.
-Andrew
For what it's worth. When installing the heat/RF shield on my C128, I noticed 2 heat sink "fingers' were not making good chip contact (just barely) so I removed the cover and bent the fingers for good contact. Not sure if others missed this but anyhow I thought I'd mention it.
OK... I made a dump of both versions of JiffyDOS that I have for the 1571 drive. These are both original chips from CMD.
The first one says V5.05 on the label with a copyright date of 1988. On the error channel, it reads as V5.0. The dump is at http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/1571jd5.rom
The second one says V6.01 on the label with a copyright date of 1989. On the error channel, it reads as V6.0. The dump is at http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/1571jd.rom
Let me know what you find as far as differences between the two. :)
-Andrew
The 1541 JiffyDOS installation instructions have now been added to my website (http://mysite.verizon.net/wiskow).
SMF, have you had a chance to compare those versions of JiffyDOS for the 1571 yet?
-Andrew
Quote from: wiskowThe 1541 JiffyDOS installation instructions have now been added to my website (http://mysite.verizon.net/wiskow).
SMF, have you had a chance to compare those versions of JiffyDOS for the 1571 yet?
-Andrew
I did a quick fc /b and they are quite different, so I'm going to knock up a disassembler that is geared up to the task of generating output that can be compared. With work/bad cold/xmas etc it'll probably be a weekend job.
Quote from: smfI did a quick fc /b and they are quite different, so I'm going to knock up a disassembler that is geared up to the task of generating output that can be compared. With work/bad cold/xmas etc it'll probably be a weekend job.
I certainly understand... This is a very busy time of the year for me, too! :)
-Andrew
I sent the V5 and V6 JiffyDOS ROM's for the 1571 that I made dumps of to Eslapion, and he says that the V5 appears to be based on the original 1571 ROM (the buggy one, 310654-03), and the V6 appears to be based on the fixed rom (310654-05).
Also... Thanks to Eslapion's kind donations, the Collection of JiffyDOS ROM's that I'm hosting on my website (http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow) is growing! I've just added the JiffyDOS ROM for NTSC Plus/4, as well as the CMD FD-2000 DOS ROM (yes, I realize that's not JiffyDOS, but it includes JiffyDOS and it's CMD, so what the hell... hehehe). Here's the complete list of everything in the collection so far:
1541
1541-II
SX1541
1571
1571D
1581
C64
C128
SX-64
VIC-20
Plus/4 (NTSC only)
Turbo Master
IndusGT
FD-2000
If anyone has any other JiffyDOS ROM's that they'd like to add to this collection, please contact me! I'd like to try to make this as complete as possible. Thanks go to Golan for the majority of these, and of course to Eslapion for adding to it. To download these, just go to my website (http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow), and click on the "Collection of JiffyDOS ROM's" link. Perhaps Lance could also update the copy that he's hosting here?? ;)
Enjoy! :)
-Andrew
Ill just add to this, if anyone actually wants jiffydos roms just ask me.
thanks.
ps. I mean actual chips :) not the romfiles :)
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 15, 2008, 05:44 PM
Ill just add to this, if anyone actually wants jiffydos roms just ask me.
thanks.
ps. I mean actual chips :) not the romfiles :)
Can you provide more than the ones in the zip that andrew is hosting?
i havent looked, but Id think we'd have the same files.
What device do you have that isnt in his file?
or are you thinking I have more roms to add to the collection? :)
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 15, 2008, 09:57 PM
or are you thinking I have more roms to add to the collection? :)
I do have a couple of drives that I need to check whether I have a working set for.
But from a software preservation aspect we really need to make sure that all the versions are kept and catalogued.
There are definately a few drives missing and then there are many revisions missing.
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 15, 2008, 05:44 PM
Ill just add to this, if anyone actually wants jiffydos roms just ask me.
What would one set for 1571 plus shipping to the US cost?
Ill pm you Michael, but let me check shipping first - it cant be that much for 1 chip plus a switch :D
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 16, 2008, 08:29 AM
Ill pm you Michael, but let me check shipping first - it cant be that much for 1 chip plus a switch :D
The 1571 JiffyDOS chip is autosensing, so no switch is required. All you need is the 27256 or 27C256 EPROM. JiffyDOS for the 1571 and 1581 are the easiest to make. ;)
-Andrew
BTW - If you're in the U.S. or Canada, you'd probably be better off ordering JiffyDOS from Eslapion. He ships from Quebec. Check here (http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25664) for his latest price list.
-Andrew
I understand theyre autosensing, but I still like the option to revert back to the original factory ROM image. Ill probably never switch it back, but it's nice that it's there. :D
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 15, 2008, 05:05 PM
If anyone has any other JiffyDOS ROM's that they'd like to add to this collection, please contact me!
Hey, the MSD SD-1 that I am bringing into this Sunday's FCUG meeting has JiffyDOS in it.
This Sunday the showdown between the MSD SD-1 and the SD-2,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Quote from: RobertB on January 16, 2008, 03:29 PMHey, the MSD SD-1 that I am bringing into this Sunday's FCUG meeting has JiffyDOS in it.
So... If I bring along my Promenade C1 clone, will you let me burn a copy of the ROM? Looks like yet another demo I'll be doing... ;)
-Andrew
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 16, 2008, 07:51 PM
So... If I bring along my Promenade C1 clone, will you let me burn a copy of the ROM? Looks like yet another demo I'll be doing... ;)
Hurrah, another presentation! Bring along your digital still camera, too, so that photos can be taken of the SD-1 and the SD-2 boards.
Thanks,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Quote from: RobertB on January 17, 2008, 03:15 AMHurrah, another presentation! Bring along your digital still camera, too, so that photos can be taken of the SD-1 and the SD-2 boards.
Okay... I'll do that. :)
-Andrew
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on January 15, 2008, 05:05 PM
Here's the complete list of everything in the collection so far:
1541
1541-II
SX1541
1571
1571D
1581
C64
C128
SX-64
VIC-20
Plus/4 (NTSC only)
Turbo Master
IndusGT
FD-2000
Should I bring my FD-4000 to the Sunday FCUG meeting, too?
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Isnt there also a ROM for the 1541C floating around?
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 17, 2008, 05:40 PM
Isnt there also a ROM for the 1541C floating around?
It's probably the same as one of the others or corrupt, I think the sx64 rom is corrupt too.
Quote from: smf on January 17, 2008, 06:25 PM
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 17, 2008, 05:40 PM
Isnt there also a ROM for the 1541C floating around?
It's probably the same as one of the others or corrupt, I think the sx64 rom is corrupt too.
The C1541 ROM is in the archive. The SX64 one seems to work fine with VICE.
Quote from: Mangelore on January 17, 2008, 08:06 PMThe C1541 ROM is in the archive. The SX64 one seems to work fine with VICE.
The readme file in the zip file says:
C1541.ROM is a 16K file, for the 1541C
1541.rom is the upper half, and replaces 901229-0x on older 1541 drives.Eslapion told me that he checked the files, and the "C1541" file is for the older 1541, not the 1541C. So neither he nor I have the actually JiffyDOS ROM for the 1541C, which is apparently different. He said that a workaround is to swap out the board in a 1541C with a board from an older 1541.
-Andrew
Quote from: Mangelore on January 17, 2008, 08:06 PM
Quote from: smf on January 17, 2008, 06:25 PM
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 17, 2008, 05:40 PM
Isnt there also a ROM for the 1541C floating around?
It's probably the same as one of the others or corrupt, I think the sx64 rom is corrupt too.
The C1541 ROM is in the archive. The SX64 one seems to work fine with VICE.
Not for me, I meant the drive one & not the computer one. It hit unknown opcodes.
Quote from: smf on January 18, 2008, 07:10 AMNot for me, I meant the drive one & not the computer one. It hit unknown opcodes.
Did you try burning the SX1541 ROM to an EPROM and install it in an SX-64? Or are you trying to use the SX1541 ROM in VICE? If it's the latter, then it most likely won't work, since I don't think VICE correctly emulates the 1541 drive in an SX-64.
-Andrew
Quote from: smf on January 18, 2008, 07:10 AM
Quote from: Mangelore on January 17, 2008, 08:06 PM
Quote from: smf on January 17, 2008, 06:25 PM
Quote from: StyleCHM on January 17, 2008, 05:40 PM
Isnt there also a ROM for the 1541C floating around?
It's probably the same as one of the others or corrupt, I think the sx64 rom is corrupt too.
The C1541 ROM is in the archive. The SX64 one seems to work fine with VICE.
Not for me, I meant the drive one & not the computer one. It hit unknown opcodes.
Interesting. Well, I found the following files on my PC...
27c256-JDOS-SX64.rom
27c256_JDOS-SX64-1541.rom
PM me if you want a copy. I also have a file named 4sx64kernals.rom which seems to be a compilation of the standard SX-64 ROM, JiffyDOS 6.01, SX-64 AUDIE P.KORVING, and SX-64 AUDIE P.KORVING PROLOGIC SYSTEM.
what are the last 2?
Im about to give one of my SX 64s a birthday overhaul...... including jdos.
Not sure but I think the Prologic one is for a parallel fast loader board like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270181035736 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270181035736)
JiffyDOS for the MSD SD-1, as well as CMD HD Boot ROM v2.8 and CMD RAMLink DOS v1.4, have been added to the Collection of JiffyDOS ROM's on my website (http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow). I also reorganized the files (again), giving them all the correct .bin file extension, and making them all standard file lengths (a couple had an additional 2 bytes for the Commodore load address... they're fixed now).
-Andrew
Quote from: RobertB on November 11, 2007, 03:47 AM
Quote from: plbyrdWhat killed me was that he had time to port JiffyDOS to the VIC, plus/4 and 16...
C16? I've not heard that Maurice made a version for the C16.
I hadn't heard of JiffyDOS for the C16 either... But check this out -- there's a C16 up on eBay from Worldlam, with JiffyDOS! $85 Buy-It-Now. See here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130200681181).
-Andrew
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on February 24, 2008, 08:19 AM
I hadn't heard of JiffyDOS for the C16 either...
Well, the Plus4 JiffyDOS is supposed to be the same for the C16. The only way to really find out is to take the Plus4 JD and plug it into a C16.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Quote from: RobertB on February 24, 2008, 04:40 PMWell, the Plus4 JiffyDOS is supposed to be the same for the C16. The only way to really find out is to take the Plus4 JD and plug it into a C16.
Apparently that's true... Eslapion said the same thing when I told him about it. So do stock C16's and Plus/4's have the same Kernal ROM?
-Andrew
I've added a scan of the 1581 JiffyDOS installation instructions to my website (http://cottonwood.servebbs.com/wiskow). This is in addition to the C64, 1541, and 1571 JiffyDOS installation instructions that were previously there. Enjoy. :)
Ok, I've got a standard flat 128 coming and I'd like to go ahead a burn my rom.
I've got about 100 or so 27c512 eproms that someone returned to my company and they just said here have em.
I'm using the following pinout as reference.
27512
+--------\/--------+
1 -|A15 Vcc|- 28
2 -|A12 A14|- 27
3 -|A7 A13|- 26
4 -|A6 A8|- 25
5 -|A5 A9|- 24
6 -|A4 A11|- 23
7 -|A3 /OE-Vpp|- 22
8 -|A2 A10|- 21
9 -|A1 /CE-/PGM|- 20
10 -|A0 D7|- 19
11 -|D0 D6|- 18
12 -|D1 D5|- 17
13 -|D2 D4|- 16
14 -|gnd D3|- 15
+------------------+
pin 1 and pin 27 would be sitting outside of the socket for the following.
So for a 2 bank bios burn I'd tie a resistor between vcc and pin 1 (A15) and pin 28 (vcc) to ignore the upper 32k bank.
Then I'd tie a resistor between 28 and 27 (Vcc and a14) with a switch on the a14 side that goes to gnd to switch between the lower banks. Is this correct or should I be driving a15 low instead of high?
Thanks,
dabone
(And I'm thinking about trying servant, should I just tie a15 high and the rest of the pins stay the same?)
Quote(And I'm thinking about trying servant, should I just tie a15 high and the rest of the pins stay the same?)
You can put the 27512 in the internal ROM socket without doing anything to the 27512. The ROM socket is wired for a 27256 EPROM and pin 1 is Vpp which is normally tied high.
So, if you program a 27512 for servant, put the code in the upper half of the EPROM or you could play it safe and put the code in the lower half and upper half. Then plug it into the internal ROM socket.
Dan...
Ok, I'm still a little confused about what rom contents go together on a 128 (flat)
For the c64 kernal which ic (U32?) and what order are the roms in the eprom?
same question for the 128 rom (u34???).
Thanks,
dabone
QuoteOk, I'm still a little confused about what rom contents go together on a 128 (flat)
For the c64 kernal which ic (U32?) and what order are the roms in the eprom?
same question for the 128 rom (u34???).
Thanks,
dabone
U32 251913-01 23128 ROM Basic 2 (C64 Code)
U33 318018-02 23128 ROM Basic 7.0 4000-7FFF (C128)
U34 318019-02 23128 ROM Basic 7.0 8000-BFFF (C128)
U35 318020-03 23128 ROM Kernal C000-FFFF (C128)
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U32 251913-01 23128 ROM Basic 2 (C64 Code)
U33 318018-03 23128 ROM Basic 7.0 4000-7FFF (C128)
U34 318019-04 23128 ROM Basic 7.0 8000-BFFF (C128)
U35 318020-05 23128 ROM Kernal C000-FFFF (C128)
Dan...
Ok, so what I can see is that U32 is the C64 Basic rom + the C64 Kernal, in that order.
So for a stock rom I could take the basic and kernal files, burn them to a 27128 and have what is already in there right?
So for a Jiffy rom I'd put BASIC,KERNAL,BASIC,JIFFYDOS,BASIC,KERNAL,BASIC,JIFFYDOS to fill up the 27512. It this correct?
For u35 is it just the 128 kernal,Jiffydos128,128 kernal,JiffyDos128?
Thanks,
dabone
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Are you going to make an adapter or just pull up pin 27?
Do you have a disk drive?
Dan...
I'm just going to pull up the pin. Works in my 1541c. :)
But I'm mainly going to be using this unit with the uiec/sd that is currently on it's way to me.
I've customized a c64 version of jiffy dos with @CD : and @cd<- and @xs: for ease of use.
So I'll actually have a 3 way switch going to the roms, standard (stock) for 64&128, Jiffydos standard 64&128, and iec jiffy 64/standard jiffy 128).
I'm going to see if I can mount the iec/sd with the card facing out of the cassette port. I don't remember how much room I'll have, I gave away my 128 many many years ago.
I'm currently using a breadbin 64 my sister gave me for christmas a couple of years ago, and my 9 year old son and I have been playing with it since this xmas when I dug it out again. I build an adapter and put Jiffy on it a couple of weeks ago.
Thanks for all the answers.
Once you gave me the rom numbers and locations I was able to load up and compare the dumps from around the web.
Beats trying to figure out what goes where from vice.
Later,
dabone
Here's a tutorial I put together last week:
http://www.geneb.org/jiffydos
I've updated two flat 128s using this process.
g.